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Forgot to mention ESY. ESY is to work on IEP goals during a time when school isn't scheduled for general ed students. Summer school for credit recovery is not the same as ESY. If he does take a summer class, he should get the same support that is in his IEP during the reg school year. You do need to have all required IEP team members at a meeting in order to make changes to the IEP. Small/minor changes could be done via a no-meet revision provided everyone is OK with this change. You need to figure out how he went from advanced 95th percentile to not participating in school. To me, it looks like anxiety is at the root of his issues.
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At age 16, he should be at his IEP meeting and the loudest voice in the room. To me, anxiety seems to be his biggest issue. It looks to be what's between him & success in school. At 16, they should be looking at transition so jobs, driving, etc so this is appropriate but he's still got to pass HS & earn enough credits to graduate. Sitting in a classroom & not being engaged in learning what the teacher is teaching is not "access to an education". I think you need to talk to your son and see what his perspective is on what's getting in the way of school success. From there you see if data is needed in the way of evaluations or if you can move straight to adding support and goals so your child can be successful.
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What to do when the clock runs out?
JSD24 replied to Persistently Persistent's question in IEP Questions
With a 1st IEP, parents do have to sign off on their child receiving sp ed services. The school cannot provide IEP services w/o written permission from the parents that it's OK. With a 2nd or 3rd or 27th IEP, another signature generally isn't required. If your OK wasn't required, they should have already started services after your March meeting. -
Is the school required to give you a notice on change of education or placement
JSD24 replied to Lesly Nieto's question in IEP Questions
I saw a similar post in another group. IEP meeting was on Wed & the school wants him in a new building on Monday. My state's regs say 10 days notice is required to change placement. Looks like other schools are looking to do this as well. If your child is currently in a placement outside of your local school, it means that the local school couldn't provided the services the IEP said were needed. I'd ask what changed? Did the school hire someone? Did he needs change where he needed X and has met goals so it's not needed? I don't think this is predetermination if things changed where he doesn't need the same things he did when he was placed at this other school. LRE is the law so if the local school is LRE because something changed, I don't think you can fight that. Find out what changed so you can see if the school's perception is correct or not. -
When is it too late to seek school services?
JSD24 replied to EmilyM's question in Transition to Adulthood
You are correct that Child Find is on the school so they should be identifying students with disabilities and requesting that parents sign a PTE so they can do an evaluation. I have seen where a student's needs were no properly identified and the student graduated and they did come back & get an IEP & services. Not sure if an attorney is needed to move forward with a situation like this. (Most do offer a free 15 min consult.) -
I'm in PA and the 60 days are calendar days but summer break doesn't count. Some schools will do evals over the summer - depends if they have staff who can do this. (My district adds 5 days to the contract of their school psychologists so they can be called to do some evals over the summer w/o it costing extra to the district.) Would your daughter be willing to work on learning math over the summer? There are programs like KhanAcademy that are free & do a great job with math. Look at accommodations before doing modifications. With modifications, your child might nor be eligible for a HS diploma and that can close doors with what happens after HS graduation. Lots of schools don't provide direct & explicit instruction in math on the fundamentals - especially in 5th grade. If a lack of a strong math foundation is the problem, building that foundation over the summer can help set her up for success next year.
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Are you in a state that mandates gifted services at school? If you are, the school can (and should) be assessing for this. As far as communication goes, autism causes issues with communication so moving forward with an autism eval should definitely be done. There is a resource I posted on here about Ross Greene. His protocol helps with communication - the idea behind it is to work with a child & solve problems. Curious if the school looked at pragmatics & social skills. These are the 2 areas where kids like yours tend to need help. I've found that many schools don't look at this so they miss that a student needs help with these.
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What to do when the clock runs out?
JSD24 replied to Persistently Persistent's question in IEP Questions
So the team as met twice - once where the meeting started late and a 2nd time where they forgot to invite the parents. This 2nd meeting wasn't an IEP meeting because there wasn't adequate notification for parents to attend (at least IMO). You said they did meet and changed what they proposed as FAPE. I'm assuming they gave you a copy of this IEP to sign off on but your feeling is that it still needs tweaking. My thought is for you to go through the evaluation report and list out the areas of need they mention and come up with a list of what the IEP should address. Next step is to go through the IEP & see if they did address the areas where they mention a need. From there, you can write a parent concerns letter saying you are concerned that the eval says there are the following areas that need to be addressed that are not addressed. See if you can hash out the tweaks via back & forth email and come up with something you're willing to sign off on. IEP meetings tend not to happen in the summer because teachers aren't contracted to work & they are a required IEP team member - you need 2, one sp ed teacher & another gen ed teacher to have an official meeting. Excusing these team members from attending is also an option if you want to move this forward over the summer. My child's 1st IEP meeting was help on June 15. I remember the date as it's my mom's birthday. This was at the tail end of 8th grade. I believe it was mostly HS staff; the meeting was held in the HS. Are they adding HS staff with the additional people they are inviting to the meeting? With a delay like this, the fear would be that the data gets stale. There are changes to the baseline where the student's needs have changed. If you can afford it, see about having an advocate help you with going through the eval & the IEP to see if things are all addressed. If you see a need and there's nothing in the eval about it, you might need to request an eval that covers that area. Since the delays were due to how the school did things, in theory, your child should get back services to make up for this. This might not make sense. (We were told my son was going to get COVID compensatory services. His IEP was all about keeping up with his classes. They wanted to do these services during the summer when he had no class to keep up with. If this is you child's situation, it might not make sense to get make up services.) I think your urgency should be making sure HS gets off on the right foot. -
Request a no meet revision to his IEP: Please change XX's accommodation. It currently is "any assignment for which he receives <70% can be resubmitted ". It needs to be "any assignment for which he receives <70% can be resubmitted including assignments that were handed in after their due date". I was under the impression that "any" included any assignment which would include any late assignment. I feel the accommodation needs to be clarified. Feel free to copy what I wrote. He might still have points taken off due to the assignment being late. Was this assignment under 70 due to points being taken off because it was late? This might not help that situation.
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As kids grow & change, the support they need from their IEP might need to change too. Since the current IEP is preventing him from passing his classes, it makes sense to request an IEP meeting to tweak the support he gets so he can pass his classes. And hold the principal accountable. If they said they'd follow up on things, send an email and ask what they think needs to be done to help. What's going on with the lack of focus? Is it the material where it's too hard (or too easy)? If it's too hard, he might need to be pre taught so it is easier. It the zoning out an absent seizure where he's got a medical issue going on? If they touch his shoulder (and I know that teachers don't generally put hands on students - my suggestion is a touch to redirect) does he respond? I'd say it's not OK for ANY student to be failing several classes. Something different needs to be done. It could be simply implementing the current IEP to what it says to do or he could need more than what the IEP says to do. The squeaky wheel get the grease. Squeak to get your child what they need. With sports, it's the state HS sport association that requires passing grades so it cannot be accommodated through the IEP process. The school needs to help him so he can continue to do sports.
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Emotional Disturbance or Autism Spectrum Disorder
JSD24 replied to 5states1year's question in IEP Questions
The only way to ensure the ASD box is checked on the IEP is to refuse to sign the IEP unless that's what they check. It might delay the IEP getting put in place as this can take time to do. You might want to request a facilitated IEP meeting. Not sure if the parent education group in your state can help you advocate. Every state has one. I'd reach out to them for help. -
Will he be in a different building next year? Schools have their own policies on this. I had this happen with my son - not a speech IEP nor are we in TX. (Sometimes they are just looking to make sure they don't have a bunch of IEP meetings that have to happen around the same time so they do some earlier than required.)
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So the disability is Afterschool Restraint Collapse. Get that documented and request 504 accommodations because it effects homework which is part of what needs to be done for school success. I think it's going to be a fight. (School should know that masking happens - especially with gifted kids.)
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SPED director didn't know what PWN was...
JSD24 replied to LoveyDoveysMommy's topic in IEPs and 504s
It happens. I would send them a link to what they should already know. I have a friend who printed out IDEA & gave it to the sp ed director. This was a bigger school district (1000's of students). Put it in writing so you have a paper trail. You can start the email: Confirming our conversation on 5/11 when I requested Prior Written Notice. This is a link to what PWN is... -
I would have asked to see a copy of the evaluation report with the testing they did where he tested out. IMO, you need to email the school a copy of the report so they are prepared to consider that their offer of FAPE being no IEP might not be an offer of FAPE. (I think you might need a lawyer. The school will likely stick by their eval and give minimal consideration to the IEE report.) They might say that they saw these issues but it doesn't effect him at school.
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NY - Rural - EVERY SpEd Family Desperate for Help
JSD24 replied to Jennifer Spears's question in IEP Questions
Dear Sp Ed Chairperson- Thanks for the heads up that XYZ School District will not be offering co-taught HS classes. My child, XXX, has had these in the past and it was a services he found helpful. I appreciate that you let me know this is not an option for 9th grade. Sincerely, Have the mom write an email like this ^. It gets the phone conversation into writing because there is a saying in sp ed: If it's not it writing, it didn't happen. This verifies that the mom recalls the conversation correctly. If co-taught classes are FAPE, the school has to provide them. Yes, it's expensive to provide this to one student but the school still needs to provide FAPE even if it bankrupts them. If they don't want to do this in-house, the other option is to send the student to another school that can provide this - can either be a public school in another district or a private school. (You can force them to provide FAPE but you cannot force them to do it the way you want it done which I'm assuming is in-district.) There should be a way for families to force the school to provide FAPE w/o hiring a lawyer. If you have 20 families in a district with 247 students writing the same complaint letter to the state, they will help the families - or at least they should. https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01487 or try https://www.justia.com/lawyers/education-law/new-york/legal-aid-and-pro-bono-services or https://www.drny.org/ You might want to talk to families about a class action suit. -
So the school assessed in all areas of suspected disability & he doesn't qualify for an IEP? I'm surprised. I suspect he has delays in social skills & pragmatics. Were those areas assessed? You can ask for an IEE at school expense if the school missed an area of need when they assessed him.
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Most districts will allow a parent to scan or take photos of the documents you look at via a FERPA request. I'd give them the courtesy of asking if it's OK to take photos. Might be good to ask via email so you have a papertrail of the fact that you asked & are allowed. The cost of copies adds up when your child has a thick file.
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Parent input goes into the IEP. The eval report is what's due in 60 days - not the IEP. They have 30 days from eval report to IEP meeting (if the student qualifies for an IEP). There is a booklet of PA timelines on PATTAN. This is the link to get to it: https://www.pattan.net/Publications/Special-Education-Timelines You have a bit of time to provide your input and have it in the IEP.
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(((Hugs))) With an IEP, he can stay in school up until age 21 so the school can teach him some of the skills he's missing. There are assessments of ADL that he school could do. They are supposed to set him up for success after HS graduation with the transition plan in his IEP. What does your son want to do after HS? IMO, you should start there.
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moving IEP from middle school to high school - new school district
JSD24 replied to Cottage's question in IEP Questions
No suggestions. With magnet schools like this, the rules vary a lot - often by state. You'd need someone who knows the rules in your area to answer this and you didn't provide any info about where you are (and it might not be info you want to share). I have a feeling they could kick her out if attendance is an issue and there's a waitlist for her seat in this school. -
To get a speech to text software program, the 1s step is an AT eval. This is where the school matches your child with the right program/devise. Parent needs to give written permission for this evaluation. The school then has 60 days (this varies by state) to do the eval. After this is put into the IEP, the school has ~10 days to implement what's in the IEP. Yes, the school's IT dept would need to do this and they might need to get a software license & get school board approval to add this to a school ipad. My district has a BYOT policy but many don't. There is a liability issue too as I've seen where these things end up damaged & they are expensive to repair/replace when they get broken. You need to follow their rules on this & it will take a fairly long time.
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Parent Concerns Ignored. Now What?
JSD24 replied to Persistently Persistent's topic in IEPs and 504s
Yes, to receive special instruction - which is what the class you requested falls under if it is a sp ed class - your child would need to have an IEP (a 504 might also be something that could get your child into this class but it's the school's decision). As far as outside tutoring for dyslexia (not sure if this is what you're looking for) The Scottish Rite provides free services. There are also homeschool programs that cost less than an hour of a sp ed attorney's time. Executive functioning is hard to teach. You end up explicitly teaching each skill - how to organize homework, how to organize time to do homework, how to remember to bring homework to class A, B, C... (prompting for this is a good accommodation), how to bring what's needed home so you have what's needed to do homework - you get the picture with teaching each skill. With an IEP meeting, it's always good to summarize what was gone over & email the summary: During the meeting on 4/8, I had asked how the school would address the executive functioning issues that are causing homework not to be handed in so my child can get credit for work done. Mrs. XX said that the school will not be doing that. ... Please confirm that this is correct. https://adayinourshoes.com/after-iep-meeting/ -
If they never brought up the topic, why are they saying: “The accommodations that are in place were mutually determined and agreed upon, at the time of our team meeting."? If you had a 504 meeting, the accommodations should apply to all testing including PSSAs. Also with PSSAs, they can read directions & math problems but not a whole lot on the ELA part. Not signing & returning the NOREP puts the IEP into place after 10 days/means you agree to terminate sp ed it that was what the NOREP said. https://adayinourshoes.com/sign-the-iep/ It doesn't hurt your child to 'fail' a PSSA. PA doesn't retain kids who fail in 3rd grade like other states do. There is no reason for her to ever see the grade. Also, under FERPA, you are allowed to clarify what's in your child's records. You can write a note that says XX took PSSAs in 2023 w/o accommodations despite a 504 which provided accommodations - see attached.
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Power of Attorney for Education?
JSD24 replied to Persistently Persistent's question in IEP Questions
I believe the difference is with a POA, the parent still controls the IEP process. With an educational surrogate, the surrogate has full control of the process - the surrogate replaces the parent. I did find one for VA. POA wording tends to be state specific: https://www.dlcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Educational-Power-of-Attorney.pdf I do have a POA for education but this was done as part of a more comprehensive POA when they turned 18 so I could advocate. This was written by a lawyer.